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Agenda
- - Welcome
- - Agree on agenda
- - Select note taker
- - Review Open Action Items
- - Continue reviewing requirements list after SAPs inputs and agreeing which requirements we do or do not accepthttp://www.unstandards.org:8080/display/public/UCM+-+Requirements+List+
. We will start on requirement no 27 in the original requirements document. - Discuss use-case input from TBG 17/ CCMA.
- - Other business
- - Next meeting
Meeting Results
Processed requirements 27-34. Changes documented directly in the requirments list.
It was concluded that we need discussions in Stockholm on a clear and anchored definiton of context, and UCMs use of context categories should be discussed. It is also necessary to coordinate with TBG14 to make sure default context categories and values are available prior to ODP Step 6.
Action Items
- Tony will implement this meetings changes and send updated requirements to Oyvind
- Oyvind will send out updated to the yahoolist and ask for comments on the not processed requirements
- Oyvind will follow up with TBG14
Decisions
Next Meetings
| Date | Time | Topic | Location |
|---|---|---|---|
| 06.09.2007 | 16:00 - 17:00 CET | Requirements discussion | Interwise |
| Title | UCM meeting |
|---|---|
| Topic | Requirements for UCM |
| Date | 06.09.2007 |
| Start Time | 16:00 - Timezone: CET |
| End Time | 17:00 - Timezone: CET |
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Agenda
- - Welcome
- - Agree on agenda
- - Select note taker
- - Review Open Action Items
- - Continue reviewing requirements list after SAPs inputs and agreeing which requirements we do or do not accepthttp://www.unstandards.org:8080/display/public/UCM+-+Requirements+List+
. We will start on requirement no 35 in the original requirements document. - \ - Plan for the Stockholm Forum
- - Other business
- - Next meeting
Call details
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Participant: Oyvind, Bill, Andrew, and Gunther
Note Taker: Gunther
1.) UN/CEFACT Forum in Stockholm
Action Items for Everyone:
- Review the agenda that I will submit you by today, tommorrow.
- Invite everyone of your group to come to Stockholm, and let me know who will come.
- Send me one or two slides of the project's progress and next steps, by Monday morning CET.
2.) WUMM -- Next Steps
Will be submitted to the FMG for approval at the next FMG Call
6.) Status and next steps of UCM
- Oyvind will come to Stockholm from Monday to Friday
- Tony, Mark, and Gunther will be available for the UCM on Thursday,
- Scott is not sure
- Professor Peter Wisse from Holland is invited
- Meeting on Thursday (all day)
- Finalize the requirements list at the call, today.
8.) Status and next steps of COD
- Requirements are approved
- Definition of conformance is approved by FMG
- Next Wednesday is the next call
- Review the progress with the FMG
- The high level version of conformance will be available before Stockholm
- Andrew will be in Stockholm from Monday through Friday
- Andrew will ask his team, who will come. Steve Mc Grean, Marion Royal and several others will bein Stockholm
- COD will meet on Tuesday/Wednesday.
9.) Status and next steps of REA
- Draft will be done the week before Stockholm
- Bill and a colleague will come to Stockholm
- REA will meet on Thursday afternoon
- Bill will meet on Wednesday with UMM
Labels: ccwg, ucm, ucm_odp2, ucm_odp2_minutes, tmg_news
| Note Taker | |
|---|---|
| Participants | |
Agenda
- - Welcome
- - Agree on agenda
- - Select note taker
- - Review Open Action Items
- - Continue reviewing requirements list after SAPs inputs and agreeing which requirements we do or do not accepthttp://www.unstandards.org:8080/display/public/UCM+-+Requirements+List+
. We will start on requirement no 35 in the original requirements document. - - Plan for the Stocholm Forum
- - Other business
- - Next meeting
Meeting Results
Processed the final requirements. This means the requirements specification is now ready and UCM will move into ODP Step 3 - Internal Draft Development. Thanks to everybody who has contributed!
We had a discussion on the best way to proceed in the next phase. There are two main alternatives:
1. Posisiton papers. The UCM group writes position papers from scratch that addresses the different requirements. This is a good mechanism to capture discussions and driver the process forward. The disadvantage is that this is an immature area so it will be realtively hard and timeconsuming to write good position papers. There is also a danger that the posistion papers will lead to inconistency as they look at certain requirements of groups of requirements in isoloation.
2. Call for contribution. This approach calls for contributions of proposals for a methodology document or parts of a methodology document with a description of how they fit the requirements. The advantage is that we will get consistent proposals and can focus on how they fit the requirements. The problem with this approach is that there might not be so many contribution proposals. Tony has however volontered to expand his initial contribution and link this to the requirements and have something ready for the Stockholm Forum. SAP has also indicated willingness to contribute to the draft specification. We should also check with Pieter Wisse who has done extensive researhc in the area and possibly will get involved in the UCM work.
The conclusion is that Øyvind checks out possibilities for contributions and if we get satisfactory responses we will start out from the second approach.
Action Items
- Tony updated final requirements document.
- Øyvind checks out possibilities for contributions.
Next Meetings
The agenda for the next meeting will be to group the requirements properly and discuss final preparations for the Stockholm meeting.
| Date | Time | Topic | Location |
|---|---|---|---|
| 20.09.2007 | 16:00 - 17:00 CET | Grouping of requirements | Interwise |
| Title | UCM meeting |
|---|---|
| Topic | Requirements for UCM |
| Date | 20.09.2007 |
| Start Time | 16:00 - Timezone: CET |
| End Time | 17:00 - Timezone: CET |
| Join Meeting | [Meeting ID: 627008] |
Agenda
- - Welcome
- - Agree on agenda
- - Select note taker
- - Review Open Action Items
- - Group requirements that belong togheter.
- \ - Preparations for the Stockholm Forum
- - Other business
- - Next meeting
Call details
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Participants:
Gunther Stuhec,
Note Taker:
Gunther Stuhec
Agenda:
0.) Review of notes of last meeting: http://www.unstandards.org:8080/display/public/2007/09/06/![]()
1.) UN/CEFACT Forum in Stockholm - Agenda?
2.) WUMM - Next Steps
3.) EBAS - Next Steps
4.) CCTS V3.0 --> Strategy next steps
5.) Status and next steps of CCMA
6.) Status and next steps of UCM
7.) Status and next steps of UPCC
8.) Status and next steps of COD
9.) Next Face-to-Face meeting in December
10.) Other business
Minutes:
0.) Review of notes of last meeting: http://www.unstandards.org:8080/display/public/2007/09/06/![]()
1.) UN/CEFACT Forum in Stockholm - Agenda?
2.) WUMM - Next Steps
3.) EBAS - Next Steps
4.) CCTS V3.0 --> Strategy next steps
5.) Status and next steps of CCMA
6.) Status and next steps of UCM
7.) Status and next steps of UPCC
8.) Status and next steps of COD
9.) Next Face-to-Face meeting in December
10.) Other business
Labels: ccwg, tmg_news, ucm, ucm_odp3, ucm_odp3_minutes
| Note Taker | |
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| Participants | |
Agenda
- - Welcome
- - Agree on agenda
- - Select note taker
- - Review Open Action Items
- - Grouping of requirements
- - Plan for the Stocholm Forum
- - Other business
- - Next meeting
Meeting Results
Grouping of requirements:
Tony prepares this by proposing which requirements will fit into the different sections of the outline. This is prepared in the Stockholm Forum.
A discussion on the agenda for the Stockholm ended with the following points:
- Discussion on proposed outline for the draft document. How should it be structured, how do requirements fit into this structure? Tony prepares.
- Discussion on context definition and context relationships.
- Discussion on contributions and central concepts of the UCM-specification.
Action Items
- Tony proposes outline for document til Stockholm Forum
Next Meetings
The agenda for the next meeting will be to group the requirements properly and discuss final preparations for the Stockholm meeting.
| Date | Time | Topic | Location |
|---|---|---|---|
| 04.10.2007 | 16:00 - 17:00 CET | Grouping of requirements | Interwise |
EBAS Opening Meeting
Attendees:
- Michael Rowell, Oracle, Chief Architect OAG.
- Tobias Vogel, SAP Research, Switzerland.
- Rainer Schuster, ARC Austria.
- Philipp Liegl, ARC Austria.
- Birgit Hofreiter, University of Vienna.
- Kenji Itoh, Japan, JASTPRO (Trade Facilitation Orgn) (former UN-EDIFACT Rapporteur Asia), UEB Glossary Editor. Would like to see updated ebTA
- Steve Capell, Red Wahoo, Australia.
- Marco Zapletal, Vienna University of Technology
- Mark Palmer, NIST, Vice Chair CEFACT (Bureau) - Worked on e-Business Standards convergence forum and would like to contribute
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Reviewed EBAS Project proposal. Invited Comments.
- Consensus from group that EBAS proposal was acceptable.
- Worked on e-Business Standards convergence forum presentation from Mark. See attachment.
See also http://www.nssn.org
CEFACT, ANSI, ISO, ITU will participate in a global e-business standards architecture.
Customers for EBAS:
- External users who need to make sense of CEFACT standards.
- CEFACT Management & Working groups.
- Business Standards Consortia / organisations (eg CIDX, GS1, etc).
- Software vendors who may be implementers.
Requirements:
- identify / create a reference model for CEFACT standards. 1999 ebTA is the initial contributions. Review for currency - does it need update?
- Identify all CEFACT standards (technical and business) - including versions and dependencies.
- Vocabularies / classifications for CEFACT and dependent standards (Take contribution from M.Palmer NIST work?).
- Identify CEFACT procedural changes needed to maintain accuracy and currency of the standards list.
- EBAS will include a methodology as well as reference model. ie the "How" as well as the "What"? The methodology will aim to assist users to navigate and use all CEFACT product.
Deliverables:
External Facing
- Architecture Specification (ie conceptual framework / reference model). Normative / ODP.
- Methodology / user guide. Non-normative.
- Repository of current standards - including dependencies & packaging. Non-normative.
Internal Facing
- Templates / Naming conventions / URI .. etc for CEFACT technical Specifications.
- Architecture compliance criteria - how does a project specification be "compliant" with CEFACT architecture?
Issues:
- How to maintain currency of "repository" data?
- Each WG chair to update spreadsheet each Quarter?
- Add our meta-data to some existing FMG spreadsheet?
Resourcing:
- EBAS (reference model / conceptual framework) Editor: Nada
- Methodology / User Guide: Steve
- Repository (spreadsheet): Steve
- Templates / conventions for developing tech specs: COD project??
MetaData For each standard.
| MetaData Item | Description | Cardinality |
|---|---|---|
| Type | Classification of standard from reference Model | 1-* |
| Title | Name of the standard | 1 |
| Date | Release date of standard | 1 |
| Version | Version of the standard | 1 |
| Status | Lifecycle status (ODP) | 1 |
| StatusDate | Date of last status change | 0-1 |
| ID | URI Identifier of the standard | 1 |
| Location | URL location of the standard | 1 |
| IssuingBody | Name & contact details of the standards issuer | 1 |
| WorkingGroup | Name of the working group | 0-1 |
| Editor | Name & contact details of the editor | 0-1 |
| Description | 1000 word summary of the standard | 1 |
| Dependencies | URI's of dependent standards | 0-* |
| Classifications | Any number of other classifications (Scheme / node pair) | 0-* |
Taxonomies for classification
To be developed.
This is a very important announcement:
I will do all the TMG CONTENT Stuff in future.
| Title | UCM meeting |
|---|---|
| Topic | Development of UCM-specification |
| Date | 04.10.2007 |
| Start Time | 16:00 - Timezone: CET |
| End Time | 17:00 - Timezone: CET |
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Agenda
- - Welcome
- - Agree on agenda
- - Select note taker
- - Review Open Action Items
- - Discuss possible comments to Tonys outline (see document in UCM ODP 3)
- \ - Discuss possible comments to drafted definitions (see document in UCM ODP 3)
- \ - Discuss further work/ agenda for next meetings
- - Other business
- - Next meeting
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Labels: ucm, ccwg, ucm_odp3, ucm_odp3_minutes, tmg_news
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Agenda
- - Welcome
- - Introduction to the work of the group w/Tony
- - Propose outline for the draft document. Structure, fit in requirements.
- - Definitions of context and context model
- - Relationship to Metapatterns
- - Discussion on contributions and central concepts of the UCM-specificaton (SAP and MileyWatts)
- - Brief meeting with TBG 14 regarding context categories.
- - Next meeting
Meeting Results
Introduction w/ Tony:
See first 5 pages of Tonys Contribution:
http://www.unstandards.org:8080/download/attachments/3801826/UCM+Context+Model+and+Methodology+Proposal+-+Coates.pdf?version=3![]()
Goals - automatic processing and search (what components are existing). Some associations might also just be for making it easier to for people to understand - not only for the machines.
Context is in the eye of the beholder. There might be different opionons given context of something. There is an idea of incompleteness. Nothing you will do will ever be complete. Build for an open world.
Time Constraints: Recommended article of Martin Fowler - "Things that change in time".
Comes down to putting date (start - end (or open)) on things.
Validity - recognize that there can be variable qualities of descritions. Add things as wrong without taking out straight away.
Skepticism of the correctness of everything. Healthy.
Outline of specification:
Tony has prepared. No immediate questions to Tonys outline and requirements classification. Will be taken up on next meeting after people have had time to look through them.
Definitons:
Context Defintions (see proposal in Tonys contribution):
Activity - overloaded word. Proposed alternatives - environment, things.
Take out second part of first line?
Categorization - should be put in - important use of it. But again only one of the possible uses.
Context Metamodel:
Second line - Anders - proposal to include vocabulary. Glossary - what does the different words mean.
Relationship Metapatterns
Peter Wisse's papers have some very interesting concepts and he has been working with context over a long period of time. These includes open world assumptions, contexts dependence on view, awareness of variations in quality of context descriptions, and the time dimensions influence on context. Some of these concepts will be useful for the UCM methodology. However, our work is limited to UCM and it is not possible for us to discuss changes to the concepts of CCTS as proposed in some of his feedback.
Peter Wisse and Jan van Til are added to the yahoogroup and invited t0 future meetings.
Contributions:
Tonys metamodel:
Comments:
There should be a statement in the beginning noting the importance of that this is one of the most important specifications for B2B collaborations.
Gunther - is intersection/ exclusion is the best solution. Will use
Boolean expressions which can lead to very many and/ors.
Context association- connection between two contexts. Important to know whether Association Type is transitive or not with regards to automatic processing.
Mathematic logic - collections and description logic is important.
Narrow/ broader makes the math more difficult. But we cannot escape this, necessary to take into account the necessary math for sufficient logical expressions.
Primary categories: Tony's suggestions - to define the minimum amount we can get away with.
Anders - types of associations? - - main set of context associations is an important part of the specifications (part-of is identical to broader-narrower), same as, disjoint, inverse, broader. Add associations that can be useful - not because we can think of it.
Time is not category - only for lifecycle of other categories. Valid to and from.
Model live over time, certain things will come and go. Alternative to versioning. Can issue versions every time something changes. With dates you can say at any date what is the model, so that you know from this date you should not use this part. Application can read this - drop pre-from and past-to.
But if you for every value you should define date to and from it can be very complex in maintenance. The only thing that is required is value from date.
Anders math - important with set of examples. Also for validating what we are doing.
Gunther: Challenge from CCTS - how do we do qualifier. Qualifiers are names. Semantics of information vs. Semantics of context. How do we define unions that creates new categories.
Narrower/ broader - replaced part-of - assumed to be more generic.
SAPs metamodel:
As SAPs work had been released just ahead of this meeting. Gunther asked if someone had an issue with that with regards to the IPR policy because material was still labelled with SAP logos. Anders Tell had, and therefore it was decided not to go forward with a discussion on SAPs contribution.
Furhter work:
How to deal with several submissions. Suggestion that we work with a mixed model where we accept wholistic contributions and also work out position papers that addresses possible gaps, missing parts in these contributions. Anders informed that OMG only takes full contributions and continue working on several paralell specifications. Allows you to follow different trains of thoughts.
Meeting with TBG 14
We had a brief discussion with a few central members from TBG 15 (Nikolaus Sahling, Ed Buchinski, Collin Parker) with regards to a previous action point from. The purpose from UCMs point of view as to get a confirmation that TBG 14 that they can provide a set of context categories with corresponding context values.
TBG 14 presented their under development framework for categorizing business process and lifecycle-processes. These are clear potential candidates for category classifications. However, the context methodology will need several more context categories in order to provide a fullfledged context description.
The conclusion was that UCM must establish contact on a higher level with TBG because we need a broader level of context categories. Also, TBG 14 recommended that UCM work out a template for what kind of format and information we want the TBGs to provide.
Action Items
Gunther - cleans contribution from SAP-logos.
Oyvind adds Peter, Martin and Jan to Yahoogroup.
Next meeting
| Date | Time | Topic | Location |
|---|---|---|---|
| 04.10.2007 | 16:00 - 17:00 CET | Grouping of requirements | Interwise |